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November 22, 2005

Filed under: Uncategorized — Muli Ben-Yehuda @ 6:50 AM

OSDC::Israel::2006 looks awesome. I’d like to give a talk but I don’t have a good subject in mind, considering how far I stray from the P languages these days. Any suggestions?

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  1. I want to give a talk too 馃槮
    Do you want to give a talk together but also to say what about? 馃檪

    Comment by moshez — November 22, 2005 @ 12:18 PM | Reply

    • You should talk about Twisted.

      Comment by shapirac — November 22, 2005 @ 12:52 PM | Reply

      • Everybody talks about Twisted though 馃槮

        Comment by moshez — November 22, 2005 @ 1:07 PM

  2. Braidump

    Well, you can always steal^W borrow, someone else’s presentation, or recycle your own past presentation. I have prepared some presentations, and because the prospect of me presenting makes me nervous, I only intend to give some lightning talks of sorts. So the coast clear for you.

    You can also give presentations about LISP/Scheme or Haskell/O’Caml or whatever. It is possible that some presentations about C/C++ would be acceptable, but I think talking about the Kernel or Xen would be too low-level. (both for the conference’s theme and the attending audience).

    One good presentation idea would be ANSI C for Perl/Python/PHP programmers. Either you use ladypine’s material from Haifux, or you and I can prepare our own.

    Hopefully I’ve been a little more than useless here.

    Comment by shlomif — November 24, 2005 @ 11:12 AM | Reply

    • Re: Braidump
      > Well, you can always steal^W borrow, someone else’s presentation, or recycle
      > your own past presentation. I have prepared some presentations, and because
      > the prospect of me presenting makes me nervous, I only intend to give some
      > lightning talks of sorts. So the coast clear for you.
      I consider giving a conference talk based solely on someone else’s work morally reprehensible.
      > You can also give presentations about LISP/Scheme or Haskell/O’Caml or
      > whatever. It is possible that some presentations about C/C++ would be > acceptable, but I think talking about the Kernel or Xen would be too
      > low-level. (both for the conference’s theme and the attending audience).
      We’ll see 馃檪
      > One good presentation idea would be ANSI C for Perl/Python/PHP programmers.
      > Either you use ladypine’s material from Haifux, or you and I can prepare our
      > own.
      Why is it a good idea? it sounds boring… I was hoping people would present original work.

      Comment by mulix — November 24, 2005 @ 2:50 PM | Reply

      • Re: Braindump

        >
        Well, you can always steal^W borrow, someone else’s presentation, or recycle
        > your own past presentation. I have prepared some presentations, and because
        > the prospect of me presenting makes me nervous, I only intend to give some
        > lightning talks of sorts. So the coast clear for you.
        I consider giving a conference talk based solely on someone else’s work morally reprehensible.

        Hmmm… well, I didn’t say that you should do it without asking for this someone’s permission. (I do not advocate Plagiarism). And naturally, you can extend the material if you like it.
        However, I don’t find anything wrong with basing one’s talk on someone else’s material, assuming permission was given. For example, Herouth Maoz recently gave my Presentation about the GIMP to the Tel Aviv Linux club. She did modify it by translating the slides to Hebrew, and using different images, but still the original was mine. I’m still looking for people to give some of my longer presentations.

        > One good presentation idea would be ANSI C for Perl/Python/PHP programmers.
        > Either you use ladypine’s material from Haifux, or you and I can prepare our
        > own.
        Why is it a good idea? it sounds boring… I was hoping people would present original work.

        Teaching C is not particularly interesting, but it is certainly useful and enlightening. You can write your own slides that are different from ladypine‘s.
        One thing I forgot to mention in my original comment is a presentation about some Emacs LISP or alternatively some Shell stuff. I personally am not interested in Emacs, but there are many dark corners of Bash (to say nothing of Zsh) that I am not familiar with, and would really like to familiar with them better.

        Comment by shlomif — November 24, 2005 @ 3:37 PM

      • Re: Braindump
        > Hmmm… well, I didn’t say that you should do it without asking for this
        > someone’s permission. (I do not advocate Plagiarism). And naturally, you can
        > extend the material if you like it.
        You misunderstood. It’s not the slides that I refer to in “someone else’s work”, it’s the material the slides *cover*.
        > However, I don’t find anything wrong with basing one’s talk on someone
        > else’s material, assuming permission was given. For example, Herouth Maoz
        > recently gave my Presentation about the GIMP to the Tel Aviv Linux club. She
        > did modify it by translating the slides to Hebrew, and using different
        > images, but still the original was mine. I’m still looking for people to
        > give some of my longer presentations.
        What is appropriate for Haifux or Telux is not appropriate for a conference, IMENHO. Specifically, conferences should present *original work*.
        I really hope the OSDC organizers share my view, otherwise I see little point in attending or presenting. Why would I want to hear person A presenting person B’s work?
        > Teaching C is not particularly interesting, but it is certainly useful and
        > enlightening. You can write your own slides that are different from
        > ladypine’s.
        See above why “teaching C” is not something I’d be interested in doing in a conference.
        > One thing I forgot to mention in my original comment is a presentation about
        > some Emacs LISP or alternatively some Shell stuff. I personally am not
        > interested in Emacs, but there are many dark corners of Bash (to say nothing
        > of Zsh) that I am not familiar with, and would really like to familiar with
        > them better.
        This might be appropriate for a tutorial, but not for a presentation.

        Comment by mulix — November 24, 2005 @ 3:45 PM


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